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Nerds Taking Over Rock, Bourgeois hip-hop.

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Weezer: Playing Fun Music, Sorta. But really we're paying pale homage to exciting groups like Kiss. Pass the Trader Joe's food, please.
Slate started this line of thought and Steve Sailer added quite a few observations to it. You ought to read those if you have time. But I'd like to propose something. Rock seems to be broadly following the same path that Jazz took before it: from fun tied to social drinking and youth  to a period of craft, experimentation and "artiness", to entirely introspective navel gazing associated with coffee or juice with "influences" exercising tyrannical control until the music becomes thin and unlistenable. It is then kept alive by nerdy white people.

  In the 1920's and 1930's jazz was, for the listener, about getting together to dance and drink and socialize. It was fun although ballads could show a measure of grace and beauty in their execution no one confused it with high art. Similarly in the 50's and early 60's Rock occupied itself with girls, surfing and uh... girls.  Songs were praised for tightness and economy and for being fun.

Jazz in the 1950's and 60's especially the be-bop movement made jazz more intellectual. It was time to sit down and listen. You can hardly dance to Thelonious Monk's music but you could appreciate it. Albums like Kind of Blue still sell well today to a certain demographic. Rock in the late 60's and 70's also began experimenting with long formats. The Beach Boys and Beatles were the first to expand the musical vocabulary of Rock and pop in this time. Roughly for the next twenty years rock simultaneously experimented with itself and returned to its country and blues roots. But most of these "back to the basics" movements produced diminishing returns in the "fun". By the mid 1980's rock had mostly lost its rebellious spirit. Nirvana in the early 90's may have been the last band of rebellion that rode a wave of Zeitgeist. Simultaneous to the Grunge movement post-punk bands like U2 were going on self-conscious experiments.

The third stage of Jazz saw much more radical experimentation: Acid Jazz, Fusion. Players like Miles Davis literally turned their backs on the audience and instead played for themselves and the increasing number of music consumers that I can only call "archivists" or connoisseurs.  While Jazz has seen minor kitsch revivals - due in large part to fashion trends and marketing departments, jazz is now mostly bought by old white men, nerds (mostly white) and music students (mostly nerds and white). It is often played in juice bars. 

Increasingly indie rock and indie rock criticism is doing to Rock what acid jazz did to jazz - severing it entirely from a popular audience. That is - separating it from social alcohol drinking and pretending that the only way to understand it is with encyclopedic and even esoteric knowledge of popular music in the last 50 years. Pitchfork Media contributors regularly turn in thousands of words on the most abstruse topics. They parse genres with Jesuitical precision.  The popular kid group at your local high school simply won't do that kind of work to enjoy music. They want to dance and drink (when they get to college-wink). Therefore rock will increasingly have a smaller appeal. Even though I find Franz Ferdinand to be a fun band. It is fun mixed with nostalgia. It is the new New Wave - but its focus it thinner and more intense than the original new wave.

Hip hop artists and critics do not yet demand that kind of scholarship for enjoying hip hop. Whenever fidelity to genres and certain sounds get in the way - something still comes along and blows it out of the water before the entire Hip Hop world succumbs to introspection. Gangsta rap developed east and West Coast sounds centered around certain producers. The moment before it became tiresome - rappers like Outkast and producers like Missy Elliot brought the fun back. But I've seen indie rap acts like the Portland Maine based, white, vegan Sage Francis. I've noticed his appeal to white, slightly nerdy kids like myself. So you've heard it here: nerds will take over and destroy hip hop as well.

A related note on hip hop: 

I think Steve Sailer is also onto something when he describes hip hop as a modern minstrel show. Where old minstrel shows had blacks eating watermelons and "cooning" with absurd and dumb grins on their face the new minstrel shows give us blacks pimping, and shoving guns in each other's faces for gigantic and well paying white audiences. Perhaps hip hop will continue to develop the strains of itself that idealize the entrepreneurial spirit and separate that spirit from drug dealing and gangsterism. In fifty years we will denounce as rascist the hip hop promoted by NWA. "See how even the corporations and record companies and co-opt the black panther movement to sell records to whites." There will be debates about P. Diddy and whether his promotion of the Notorious B.I.G. besmirches his record of promoting a healthier "go- get' em" hip hop for social climbing. Bourgeois hip-hop anyone?

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Reader Comments (12)

Hip hop can never move into the domain of "nerds" unless the definition of music is destroyed completely.
3/8/2006 10:05 PM | Unregistered CommenterNicholas G. Moses
That's just not true. Maybe I wasn't clear but I see the same strains in hip hop that are in jazz and rock music - that is the capacity for the tyranny of "influence" and the capacity for enervating creative introspection.

Rest assured - before we die there will be bearded white guys showing each other their NWA records and discussing the tonal textures of the music.
3/8/2006 10:16 PM | Registered CommenterMichael Brendan Dougherty
Mr. Moses, there's already plenty of nerdy hip hop. Sage Francis is a good start, but check out the entire Anticon and Def Jux crews. I can't stand the vast majority of what passes for rap or hip hop on the radios or MTV, but there's lots of great stuff out there.
3/8/2006 10:17 PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter
I got what you're saying. My point was that if hip hop crosses the line into "respectable" music, it will be the end of the definition of music as we know it. Rap isn't music. It's not even sung. Unless it wishes to be considered a genre of art all by itself, I will continue to categorize it as "noise."
3/8/2006 10:42 PM | Unregistered CommenterNicholas G. Moses
Wait. So what, then, IS the definition of music? I listen to plenty of stuff that lots of people dismiss as noise but isn't, but on the rock/metal end and the electronic/hip-hop end. But I don't think the "oh that's just noise" folks really get to be in charge. Again, look at jazz and early rock, both of which were initially dismissed by many an old curmudgeon as brutish, ugly and juvenile. Who gets to decide?
3/9/2006 07:05 AM | Unregistered CommenterPeter
Who gets to decide?

Tsk, tsk Peter. Why do you ask us for a cultural authority figure when we know you won't accept one?

I think the "it's just noise" people have a point. There ought to be generally accepted cultural standards for what is good music and what is not so good, and what is bad. But when I say that sort of thing around a libertarian they start accusing me of setting up Federal agencies. Or they get confused and think I mean to say that every single person must develop a taste for the finest music that was ever written. It is as if I said "People ought to be good parents, and in general we know what that means" and the reply is "Your fascist parent regime is not my bag man, if I want to give my kids a treat on a Friday, what business is it of yours?"

Anyway it is fscinating to see the differences between libertarians who are willing or who promote non state cultural and political authorities and their influence - and those who, like Nick Gillespie, believe that breaking down stigmas against say, homosexuality, is just as important as repealing laws and abolishing state sanctioned social engineering.

Anyway- back to music:

Roger Scruton has an excellent book on the Aesthetics of Music. That's an excellent place to start.
3/9/2006 08:40 AM | Registered CommenterMichael Brendan Dougherty
Me like Duran Duran. Music good. Mmmmmm.
3/9/2006 03:04 PM | Unregistered CommenterGlaivester
"There ought to be generally accepted cultural standards for what is good music and what is not so good, and what is bad. But when I say that sort of thing around a libertarian they start accusing me of setting up Federal agencies."

Michael with the funny. Did I mention I'm a proud supporter of the NEA? Kidding.

Anyway, yes, I actually agree, but with a tweak-- we ought to have some sort of generalized standard not of good and bad, but of what is excellent. I will argue to the day I die that The Flying Luttenbachers and the Locust can be viewed as good. They aren't necessarilly good, but it's a completely viable viewpoint. But there's also a good case to make that it's "just noise." Cause, well, it's pretty damn noisy.

However, intelligent, cultured folks (who I'd imagine would include some of this blog's authors and readers) should be able to generally agree on excellence in art, and along with that, there should be a general standard of what is execreble. The Adventures of Augie March, by any reasonable standard, is a great novel. The White Album and Revolver are great rock/pop albums. Fall Out Boy and Creed are bad, bad, bad, as are basically all reality shows on MTV.

But there are artistic experiments in music, film and fine(ish) art that are up for grabs: technically amazing experimental metal, David Fincher films, the Dad show I went to at the National Gallery recently. I find the traditionalist reaction to those sorts of things to be sometimes problematic, as if the only good standards are the old ones. The old aesthetics were there for a reason and shouldn't be ignored, but that doesn't mean that all new ones should be dismissed.
3/9/2006 04:29 PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter
We're rapidly approaching agreement. Danger!
3/9/2006 05:06 PM | Registered CommenterMichael Brendan Dougherty
Oh the paleos and the libertarians can be friends...

*The, um, "Dad show" should be "Dada" show.
3/9/2006 06:14 PM | Unregistered CommenterPeter
Jazz, rock, rap, it's all elevator music. There is little from my youth that I've not heard on my way to the upper stories no matter how cutting edge it was.

I don't know how they are going to do that with rap, though.


3/10/2006 07:55 AM | Unregistered CommenterRichard
"Rock seems to be broadly following the same path that Jazz took before it: from fun tied to social drinking and youth to a period of craft, experimentation and "artiness", to entirely introspective navel gazing associated with coffee or juice..."

The Beetles are the perfect example of this trend. The most notable exception: The Rolling Stones. Their ability to focus on fun and entertaining their audience is only one of the many accomplishments which put them in a class by themselves.
3/10/2006 11:47 AM | Unregistered CommenterVictoria

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